Invincibles and DM’s are overrated on next gen
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The more i play this game, the more i realize the finesse (at least on next gen). Sold every high end card i had and just used pink diamonds and opals…still slapped niggas around like i was running full invincible squads. Those cards don’t really give you any advantage on next gen, it’s almost a waste of money.
Like in 2k20 if you had goat cards you could feel the difference, those cards were CLEARLY better. 2k21 next gen, 99 Swb Kobe runs just as fast as opal Kobe, shots exactly the same, no difference whatsoever. There’s only 2 cards on next gen that are clearly different than anything and that’s PG Giannis and Bol bol…every other card is simply a flex. Been running Josh Jackson and i can’t tell him and Kawhi apart, what’s the point of even investing in these cards?
For 2K22 to be any good, they have to start making sure the stats match the level of play. I want my expensive ass cards to shit on budget squads, run them off the court, no mas! It makes zero sense to buy these “top tier” cards when i can clap them with a 100k team.
NMS on next gen is the
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I miss 2k20.
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cards dnt make anyone good
just find 8-10 players that have nice jumpers and badges
there are only like 25 badges that matter
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@nd13 2k19 you mean. No position locks and good gameplay, I miss it
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@ogxsuave facts, i won’t front…i went back to using Malik Sealy, he’s damn near better than every DM I’ve used…still. Goated card, one of the best of the year.
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@12th said in Invincibles and DM’s are overrated on next gen:
@ogxsuave facts, i won’t front…i went back to using Malik Sealy, he’s damn near better than every DM I’ve used…still. Goated card, one of the best of the year.
on god if i ever find a badged one its up
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@ogxsuave i got one with 20 hofs, most i could find lol
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I agree
Exactly what I ve said ,
But I disagree with 20 part
At a stage GOAT cards and others were the same in game too
But animations were way more estricted last year
Anyways Batum is as good as any PG and is a PD the game is about some badges and attributes plus animations -
@pedronqneves no this isn’t what you said because you’re on current, I’m definitely not mirroring what you said. You said all the cards are the same, i said you don’t need top tier cards to be competitive
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@12th you know that current has more animations than next ?
And that isn’t the point , show me cards with something unique besides a different jumper than others
There isn’t
Being on current should be a factor just to have more variety but they don’t even use the variety because those animations don’t exist on next -
@pedronqneves you just said earlier next gen has more animations and now you’re saying it’s current?
And besides that, what you’re saying has zero to do with what my original post is about. You’re sidetracking this whole conversation trying to make a point i don’t even care about.
I said on next gen you don’t need 1 mil mt cards to be competitive, that’s it. Stick to the subject sir.
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All you need is to be good with releases and one dude to break defense with, like Batum for a spare change.
Defense in this game is non existant like never before, dude gets a free lane and go for a dunk from 3 line and I run there from free throw line (so clearly I'm closer to the rim) to block it, I get there before he does, I jump into his jumping trajectory and it near always ends in a dunk
Years before I could get so many blocks but this year the offense gets everything, then add that blinders make contested whites go in and open whites go in nearly as good as greens.
So many games where it's just trading buckets and few lucky bounces or EQ decided the outcome.
I firm believer the better player should win, but with the little defense there is to play the gap between the players have to be as big an ocean to really get that W, otherwise if you're better that won't mean shit so in the end the cards that are marginally better like the invincible ones make little to have it as it won't give you more advantage in a lot of games.
There are so many juiced PD/Opals that you could have no dark matters and still do well.
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@12th I never said that , if I was a communication problem
Current has more way more specially with the ball and on defense -
@12th ok and I agree but that’s applies to current unless you are talking about huge tourneys
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@pedronqneves you can’t compete with invincible cards running pd/op on current, there’s a stark contrast.
Maybe top comp players can, but the average Joe certainly cannot.
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@knezius yeah defense is horrible on next gen, it took some major steps backwards. It could be fixed if they just made shooting harder and contact dunks less frequent. They basically said fuck it and just let it stay. You notice we haven’t had a real patch in months, they don’t even care anymore.
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@12th I hope they tone that shit down, I bought the radio Tmac for 100k because that MFer making contested whites due to HoF blinders otherwise he just greening how are you gonna stop that. Then the contact dunks...
Horrible, you could get outplayed by worse player, I cant believe that defense around the rim is better on current than next Gen.
They better deliver true next Gen expierence next 2k.
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@12th na , you clearly can
Honestly some Pd are better than a lot of invincible
In the beginning wasn’t like that you needed better cards because the cheap ones missed key badges like clamps . And on next you are to use those cards without too many consequences ,
But now at this stage we see people in tourneys with Batum , Bol , Isaac
The only all 99 you see always its Bill (free ) and some guys with Luka , you don’t need any of those cards to compete
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@pedronqneves i think you missed the part where i said comp dudes would have no problem on either gen, but not the average Joe. Dudes come to next gen with their juiced cards that they were killing with on current in MTU and get dropped off by 10k opals on next. Yes Pedro, comp dudes will always do well….that’s why they’re COMP, but the average player will not…that’s why they’re AVERAGE.
What casual player is dropping dudes off in tourneys with batum?
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@12th guys In tourneys are competing against other comp guys with batum , Isaac , Bol , even Van Ardsale
You don’t need too expensive cards on this game to compete because the cheaper ones are basically the same , I ain’t comp and I don’t have problem running wherever
They all have max speed , defensive tendencies etc
I saw a guy going OT against ty with Curry klay and Dray
on a tourneyHonestly I don’t see even invincible cards like that in big games , only Luka and Bill .
Lebron will start to be used for sure , but people still using Danny and Isaac -
Tier hasn't mattered all year. Shoe/Coach/Floor General/Def Leader all give boosts and we can add badges this year. Cards basically been all 99 for a while now with all the boosts. Invincible cards are a scam that mainly preys on casual players.
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@pedronqneves bro do you even read what i type or do you just like to argue? I am not talking about TOURNEY COMP PLAYERS. Jesus fuckin Christ.
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@kobe6rings tier hasn’t mattered on next gen at all…but it definitely mattered on current gen. When i made the leap from current to next, there was no way in hell you could run a full Ruby squad and drop off a diamond or PD squad with ease on current (unless you were really nice) on next gen i went back and started using old token rewards because they played just as good as AH cards. Which goes back to my main point, that high end cards on next gen is strictly for the flex and to prey on casuals as you said.
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@12th ? They only way to see the value of cards is there ,
If those guys use them against the best and between the best
Why a regular unlimited guy need a card with all 99s instead of 90 ?
No card will have impact on winning in this game at this stage
Not on current or even on nextNo card will save a bad player ass on unlimited or something like that
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@12th i said that , before was like that ! Cards were missing badges and important attributes
Now isn’t the case
An invincible isn’t necessary better than a regular dark matter or a this new galaxy opals
Invincible cards are just a flex on both gens
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@pedronqneves a top tier card has more value on current than it does on next…that’s my point. Nobody on current gen is still running cards like Don ohl lmao, but i play Don ohl numerous times on next gen because his card still plays up…you get what I’m sayin? I’m just saying that the ability of a good card is much higher on current gen. They run faster, can boost, etc etc. 99 swb on current on a short guard feels like it…on next 99 swb literally feels like 89 on say invincible iverson. You just get more of what the card is supposed to do (stat wise) on current gen, compared to next gen.
Next gen as a WHOLE is just WAY WAY more slow than current…no card really has a clear cut advantage other than maybe bol bol or Giannis. Even KD doesn’t feel as fast as he does on current gen…you get what I’m saying?
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@12th i get but I don’t agree
Specially with those examples
Ohl it’s more usable on current than next … small guys run like turtles , you will be in a clear disadvantage on both ends with small players .
On current you can’t use and you will just lose lanes defense and some rim protection
I can’t imagine someone winning against a good squad played by a good user with ohl , when you have all those demis moving way faster -
@12th I can cooked people with Fat Lever over and over again on next Gen who used Ben Simmons, and sometimes I wouldint even switch matcups. I could hide him on 2s and what not.
Matchup wise and whatnot next Gen way more forgiving, top tier cards are indeed current gen thing.
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@knezius that’s exactly what I’m saying. Expensive cards are definitely more for current gen, they’re not necessary on next.
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@12th On current you can kind of overwhelm people still. When I played on current almost 99% of the time I had the better team and I could really feel it. Cards carry you further on current imo.
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Hey can we just get 2k19 remastered for 2k22 MyTeam.
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This goes for any year, a 50k MT squad can easily beat an all invincible/GOAT squad. It’s all about the user and knowing the game breaking mechanics. This is why I truly believe it’s crazy to spend money on this mode. But I try not to judge others and what they do with their money. I’ll never buy VC to open packs the remainder of MyTeam history (which I don’t think will last much longer).
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It's June.
That's the problem. My PD RJ Hampton has like 45 HoFs. What else does he need? As @OGxSuave said not all the badges matter as much.
At this point we're just paying for sigs and player models. Some of the Invincibles are cracked and have it all, like LeBron or Dwight. But most... Meh.
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@quantumkat said in Invincibles and DM’s are overrated on next gen:
My PD RJ Hampton
OUR PD RJ Hampton
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I don't think this is really a 2K21 next gen issue - it's a 2K issue. it's the same in every game.
it may be more noticeable in next gen bc of the perfect green window and the dunking being overpowered and hard to stop, but it's not unique to it.
the game in general revolves around a few key badges, stats, and tendencies, and a subset of animations which means card tier isn't gonna necessarily reflect the ability of the card.
that being said there are a few stats where a 99 is much different than a 90, but overall the player skill is likely going to weigh more and be more impactful on outcomes than those minor differences. but again, this has nothing to do with next gen.
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@impartevil nope I said it right
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@nd13 2K20 had trash game mechanics as well, worse than 21
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@jdealla yeah there was trash game mechanics. Tweening was broken, quick stop was broken. But they didn’t give every single card pro 8 so that they could tween. They didn’t give every single card base 98 or Dwayne wade so they could quick stop efficiently.
This year they gave every card curry slide. Like if you search by curry slide on 2kdb, they’re is literally 8 full pages of dark matters that have it and I don’t know how many opals. -
@nd13 yea I'm not talking about content - i'm talking about the game mechanics
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@12th just saw this... facts re: Sealy. Got one a little while back with speed grinches and HOF range for like 9k... he's still excellent to this very day
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@12th do you find yourself greening easier on next gen? That was the biggest difference to me. I couldn't green shit last year and this year on next gen I was pretty automatic with guys who's shots I liked like Tmac and PG
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@508 yeah most definitely bro
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sadly on current this isnt the case. Good cards are needed. Batum, Cliff robinson, and all the other budget beasts arent as great on current
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Batum still causing terror in these myteam streets.
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@508 there's a perfect green window on next gen like 2k19. 2k20 didn't have one so your shots were always up to RNG to some degree
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@jdealla said in Invincibles and DM’s are overrated on next gen:
@508 there's a perfect green window on next gen like 2k19. 2k20 didn't have one so your shots were always up to RNG to some degree
Been downhill since Mike Wang added RNG to shots in 2k17
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@dznasty Mike wang gotta go…dudes a cancer to the elevation of the game.
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@12th said in Invincibles and DM’s are overrated on next gen:
@dznasty Mike wang gotta go…dudes a cancer to the elevation of the game.
I'll take three Ronnies over him
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@dznasty you can tell dude never played basketball, he’s a video game head so his idea of a great basketball game is very arcade-ish…very video game minded and not so much sports sim focused.
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Why does Invincible MJ not have hof ice in veins
