Juice WRLD documentary HBO
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Man this thing hits deep. If you're a Juice fan I strongly urge you to watch.
Even if you're not a fan I still urge you to watch, probably even more so.
Juice >>>
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@yosemite_ham but why
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@rodsquad because Juice >>>
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Juice wrld may be the only artist that is liked by every rapper no matter beef, Wasn’t my type of music but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a legend to the young boys out there RIP dawg
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@yosemite_ham I meant what entices you to watch, what’s in the doc that’s juicy
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@ogxsuave said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
Juice wrld may be the only artist that is liked by every rapper no matter beef, Wasn’t my type of music but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t a legend to the young boys out there RIP dawg
I love his music but to your point I think he's so respected because he wore his heart on his sleeve through his music. Wasn't afraid to be vulnerable and lay all his problems out there for the world. Those types of artists are becoming rare these days especially in hip hop
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@rodsquad the unreleased freestyles are almost reason enough to watch imo but the behind the scenes into his life and struggles mentally I think is very intriguing. And hearing others perspectives that were close to him. I just think he's an interesting artist and being let into his mind more than just through his songs was a great watch for me but admittedly I'm a big fan of his
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Bill Simmons said Juice was the Kurt Cobain of his generation which is kind of an odd cultural reference.
Maybe he's Tupac or Biggie to some nephews but it's hard to imagine him having as much impact on the general public when attention is split in so many directions.
Looking forward to learning a thing or two from this doc.
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@nba2kpdx said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
Bill Simmons said Juice was the Kurt Cobain of his generation which is kind of an odd cultural reference.
Maybe he's Tupac or Biggie to some nephews but it's hard to imagine him having as much impact on the general public when attention is split in so many directions.
Looking forward to learning a thing or two from this doc.
If he was still alive he’d have the younger crowd eating out the palm of his hand similar to xxx
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Ftr I think the Music Box series as whole is really good so far. I've only seen this one, Woodstock 99, and the DMX ones but they have all been so good
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No to disrespect to him as a person, but i always felt musically he was just a second rate XXX
I felt like he really tried to fleece X whole style and wave. Either way, RIP to both. Still tragic no matter what i say.
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@12th ohh hell nah we bout to fight now lol just playing but he and X were very close. X was was extremely talented too. Sucks they both left us so soon when they were on a path to have a great career
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@yosemite_ham X way better, more versatile and he created the lane Juce was in.
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@12th I disagree. I think Juice had way more of a gift for making that kind of message still be fun to listen to. A lot of X songs were too slow and depressing sounding for me. I'm the opposite, I think Juice was the better version. I think he has better replay value
And if we're going to talk creating the lane Kid Cudi did it for both of them
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Just got done watching it, and god damn, this shit was fucking amazing. I loved every second of it. It was just like 1-3 hours of pure beauty. I gotta watch it again, man. Shit was good asf.
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Xanax and Codeine Cough Syrup will get you lesson learned for other rappers.
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@dreamcheese it was percs not Xanax. The doc showed this dude routinely popping like 5 at a time which is crazy. I've had my days with pain killers and I would never even think of taking that many at a time
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@yosemite_ham You get my point these guys are rapping about talking cough syrup and pain killers all the time, you can see they have serious mental health problems they are suppressing with these drugs.
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@dreamcheese yeah but it's not like they're alone. Everyone has vices. Look at the number of alcoholics in the world. Some people drink, take pills, do other drugs, over eat etc. as a vice for their mental struggles. I'm not one to judge. I think doc's like this are useful to spread awareness as well to people that struggle with these kinds of problems
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@yosemite_ham They take these drugs on a another level though, if they were not artist they would not know how to function properly in real life but I guess thats the perk of being economically independent.
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@dreamcheese I have no idea what point you're trying to make without coming off as a condescending cynic. If you're trying to say that people should choose healthier ways to deal with their mental struggles then okay but 1. It's not always as easy as just saying it out loud and 2. There are ways to verbalize it without appearing as though you're looking down on them for their choices of coping
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@dreamcheese said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
They take these drugs on a another level though, if they were not artist they would not know how to function properly in real life but I guess thats the perk of being economically independent.
This sounds a lot like those niggers are poisoning our perfect children with that pill praising devil music
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@rodsquad haha good one but you know I am right kendrick lamar and J Cole type of rappers move different, you got some serious problems if you need to be dozed off every day like a patient in a hospital with serious injurys.
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@dreamcheese said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
haha good one but you know I am right kendrick lamar and J Cole type of rappers move different
Ima stop you right here
No disrespect bro but whenever somebody names these specific two rappers together I automatically go blank
And so? Did Cole not drop a whole project about drugs? KOD?
Did Kendrick album GKMC not completely talk about drugs and drinking?
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@dreamcheese said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
@rodsquad haha good one but you know I am right kendrick lamar and J Cole type of rappers move different, you got some serious problems if you need to be dozed off every day like a patient in a hospital with serious injurys.
You ever been shot?
Lived in the hood?
Raised in poverty?
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@dreamcheese said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
you got some serious problems if you need to be dozed off every day like a patient in a hospital with serious injurys.
Yeah this tells me all I need to know. Ima leave you alone up there on your pedestal
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@rodsquad I don't care so much about them talking about drugs because you got freedom of speech so, but clearly it is a community within hip-hop who takes drugs for fun not my style though I like benny the butcher, conway and dave east types more. All I got to say the culture went from talking about selling drugs to taking them themselves kinda funny if you think about it.
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Dave East definitely partakes in drugs & this thread is about honoring Juice. Coming in here talking down on drugs users isn’t gonna make anything better tbh
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@rodsquad said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
@dreamcheese said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
haha good one but you know I am right kendrick lamar and J Cole type of rappers move different
Ima stop you right here
No disrespect bro but whenever somebody names these specific two rappers together I automatically go blank
And so? Did Cole not drop a whole project about drugs? KOD?
Did Kendrick album GKMC not completely talk about drugs and drinking?
Uh this is not true bro…Swimming pools is anti drug and drinking song, as was Coles.
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@dreamcheese Conway talks about him and bitches doing lines together Lmao!
I’m a major Griselda fan, all they talk about is moving weight.
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@12th oh boy another “they’re being conscious” when Cole looks like a demon, on the cover smoking a blunt with a crown on his head
And Kendrick repeatedly raps “Pour up, drank” on the hook but that’s not encouraging it by sending signals to the brain ?
Why we only apply this shit to rappers who rappity rap. The “conscious” rappers talk about addictions and shit too.
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@rodsquad bro you missed the whole concept of swimming pools. It’s about not wanting to drink, it’s been explained numerous times…it’s anti drinking drinking song lol. It’s not sending signals to the brain, but this generation is so clueless they’d take it as such. Nobody ( as you’ve you said, such as yourself) cares about “rappity rap” Shit today and the message completely goes over your head. Missing the point and just hearing what you want.
Cole has repeatedly denounced drugs, and i know you’re not gonna sit there and try to compare him smoking an ILLUSTRATED blunt to a nigga constantly rapping about doing incredibly harmful hard drugs lol.
You seem to always defend these ignorant ass rappers, i really don’t get it man.
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You guys are funny are you intentionally not getting my point or what, most rappers talk about drugs but most don't take hard drugs daily like Juice Wrld did and other ignorant rappers in the industry do.
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@dreamcheese your point is loud and clear. It's the way you verbalize it that comes off as demeaning and belittling because somebody copes with their own struggles in a way you don't personally agree with
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@yosemite_ham I personally knew people who were hooked on pain killers and sleeping pills and it didn't end to good for them.
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@dreamcheese I'm sure it didn't. But being judgmental and looking down on the behavior isn't helping anyone and it definitely isn't helping them
I just think you have the wrong way of looking at it
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@yosemite_ham being around these dudes, it’s not them coping with a struggle…they just come to LA and get turnt out. One of my best homies sister is the person who found Juice, he wasn’t an addict until he got on. It has more to do with getting caught up in this LA lifestyle than it does some kind of struggle or deep depression. One of my homies just OD’d out here, he was the dude who sang on Kendrick’s Reagan era song. He wasn’t depressed, it’s just LA Is a non stop drug fest and that shit takes control of you. I’ve partied with a lot of these dudes, they didn’t come here like that…but money, bad bitches and access can be a deadly combo.
I wish they’d tell the truth in their music and stop blaming it all on depression. There’s some artist that are TRULY depressed, and for them my heart goes out to them…but seeing a lot of this shit first hand? Bruh most of its just not being able to control themselves in a city where you can get anything at any time of day or night. It really comes down to self control, and praising this shit in their music is super irresponsible.
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@12th well if I'm going on what was said in the doc through footage and friends was that juice was struggling with substance abuse since his freshman year in high-school
But honestly I think it's irrelevant. The point I was making isn't just about celebrities. If a person has the mindset of looking down on anyone with a substance problem, eating problem, drinking problem, whatever it is, then I think they have the wrong idea. That kind of mindset doesn't help anyone
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@yosemite_ham looking down on someone and holding them accountable are 2 different things.
No one is perfect and we all have our own vices and/or addictions…all of us do. But someone holding you accountable for your decisions isn’t a bad thing bro. If no one is held to a standard than what’s the point? What’s the use of friends and family? People should just let you fall into the abyss in order to not appear like they’re looking down on you? Nah bruh, get your shit together…it’s tough love, that’s life. You blaming your addiction on depression is a cop out, you have a choice…it takes work, it takes discipline, but you DO have a choice to pick yourself up and not become a victim of self sabotage. I don’t coddle people bro, that shits for bitches. Man up nigga, if you want to get better…DO BETTER. People have risen from the depths who were dealing with shit WAY harder than you. There are no excuses in this life, you either do or you don’t…that’s it.
As a black man to know the history of our people in this country and to see these young niggas folding and succumbing after our ancestors endured hundreds of years of slavery just so we could BE here…absolutely pisses me off. We owe them WAY more, they sacrificed way too much for us to just give in like this.
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@12th I agree that looking down and holding accountable are 2 completely different things. Holding someone accountable means you care and want to help and hopefully you're doing it by also offering support and not just being derogatory
Looking down and being judgemental from a pedestal is very different.
I got more of the 2nd vibes from dudes posts and he didn't even deny it so I think they were accurate
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@yosemite_ham yeah i don’t judge, if one of mines is fucking up i care enough to tell them. I’m a very straight forward person so it may not be the motherly “come on baby, do better” Shit…but there’s nothing but 100% love there.
There’s definitely a wrong way and a right way to help someone. I do think this era has way thinner skin though, they can’t take being told “no, you’re fucking up”. I’m not into the handling someone with white gloves Shit, i wasn’t handled with them and i won’t do the same because it doesn’t work.
Get up, get out and get something.
But i agree don’t ever look at anyone like they’re below you, because in the end we all are here on borrowed time. No one is greater than anyone.
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The older gen thinks beating they kids ass is the way I’m not listening
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@rodsquad As fucked up as these kids are today, that wouldn’t be a bad thing. Bro these kids have ZERO respect for their elders, and it has a lot to do with this disdain for “ol’ heads”. Like being older is somehow a bad thing.
I never talked down on my OG’s growing up, i looked up to them and soaked up as much game as i could. Nowadays it’s…
I’m glad my daughter isn’t like that, we raised her to respect those who came before her. If i saw her talk to an older person the way i see some of these kids do?? maaaaaan.
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Keyword here is accountability which 12th have been talking about, it comes a time when you need to stop blaming depression and other people for your own actions. It is that simple and if you are too sensitive to handle the hard truth time will always reveal the hard truth for you. If this is too judgemental for you, life is gonna be a really hard road.
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Old gen act like the period where raping girls and slipping em pills to fuck was usual in verses never existed in rap
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I hate mumble cr*p
so much
All I listened to back in my day was NF and EMINEM. The best rapers!!!!
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Amirite Guys!!!
I hate all the "rapping" about drugs!
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@rodsquad said in Juice WRLD documentary HBO:
Old gen act like the period where raping girls and slipping em pills to fuck was usual in verses never existed in rap
When did that period exist?
I don’t recall a period where that shit ever happened.
Unless you’re talking about Rick Ross…who’s technically apart of your generation lmao
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@12th your favorite Internet personality had a whole video on it with specific examples
