JA or Luka ?
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Is incredible what Ja is doing and he has one less season in the league
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@pedronqneves ja is cool and all but luka has all nbas to his name
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Ja one of my favorite playerse, but let's not forget who we talking bout here
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I’ve said before that Ja is having a great season and is probably in the top point guards so far, HOWEVER, if you swapped just Luka and Ja, the Grizzles would be better and the Mavs would be worse.
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Luka for Me. Both are amazing though.
Luka just need good players around him man
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Ja all the way. Not just the talent. Great attitude — and he lifts his teammates, making them all better. Luka wastes his prodigious talent by not being in shape, whining at referees, and too often settling for bad long-range threes.
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@ratpug why ? JA can play fast and slow down the game on the halfcourt too
Teammates can adapt better
Luka always at same tempo and KP decrease his game a lot along him .
Luka has one more season in the NBA
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Ja has a much better supporting cast than Luka.
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@jase good pointes here
I like both a lot but people for some reason don’t see this as a debate but it is . -
@ratpug KP was a franchise player before Luka
Injures obviously happened
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KP has never played a full season. You can’t be a franchise player playing 60% of the time.
JJJ is better than KP, Dwight Powell, and Maxi Kleber.
Desmond Bane is better than Brunson.
Dillon Brooks is better than DFS. -
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@ratpug kP was an all star tho
I think you over simply the reality
Luka teammates shot historic % from 3 against the clippers last year . They closed a lot of games for him
Luka is amazing, but out of shape , and play always slow , isn’t able to figure out a way to involve more KP too
Memphis already did well last year , and this year Ja showed up tremendously against huge teams -
Athleticism isn’t that important in the modern NBA, don’t have to play fast to be good. Look at Jokic.
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@ratpug JA can play both ways
And that is important
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Ja is an amazing player, but if I’m building a team from scratch I’m taking Luka before Ja.
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@ratpug need to see JA level after this season
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I guess people forgetting Luka has done some crazy shit in his few years in the league. One of the best starts of a career that we've ever seen. Ja is great and I admit Luka should stop complaining so much and focus on playing through contact but the talent difference is obvious
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@rodsquad You being blinded by recency bias. Luka nearly taking down Kawhi's Clips with KP missing a lot of time whole putting up those numbers, DAMN. Show me Ja's first team All-Nba lol. Ja playing better right now and is extremely likeable but give me Luka if I'm starting a franchise no question
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@impartevil Mavs team shot like 50% from 3 in that series lol
Hardaway took games in the 4th too
Let’s not undervalue the fact that Ja have one less season and is way better defender -
@pedronqneves If we're being up team success then why do the Grizzlies have a better record without ja??
@pedronqneves said in JA or Luka ?:
way better defender
I mean sure, but Luka can do everything on offense better besides dunk and 2 points is 2 points it doesn't matter if you dunk or lay it in
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@impartevil I mean he's from the same place as me and I watched him progress through high school its hard not to
I feel the same way about people giving Luka too much love. Ja has accomplished the same amount he has in less seasons and he's the better player to watch
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@kmart Dejounte Murray is ass
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@impartevil JÁ is scoring more and better efficiency
Luka is shooting 40% from the field and 30% from 3 -
Niggas saw Luka hit a couple clutch shots and started calling him the second coming of Larry Bird
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@rodsquad He's pretty much a lock for playoffs so we'll see how he performs there but he doesn't have an All-NBA 1st to his name so you can't really say they've accomplished the same accolades in the same time.
And @pedronqneves I've seen you downplay Luka since he was fucking up the Clippers so your dislike of him is already known. He's doing everything for this Mavs team so the efficiency being down is a given
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@impartevil said in JA or Luka ?:
All-NBA 1st to his name so you can't really say they've accomplished the same accolades in the same time.
Ja been in the league one less year and has been injured A LOT more this don't mean nun
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@impartevil said in JA or Luka ?:
He's doing everything for this Mavs team so the efficiency being down is a given
4 seasons with the same team I don't understand the excuses
Y'all do Dame dirty for doing the same thing
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@impartevil how is fucking up the clippers ? He never pass the first round against them
Im from Europe lol
Luka is clearly and elite talent
But people overhype him -
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@pedronqneves
35.7 PPG
10.3 APG
7.9 RPGAll while shooting 49% from the field and 40% from 3. This is on a team that has Kawhi and PG as defenders. Also do we need to bring up being clutch
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@impartevil he wasn’t clutch in that series
Actually is was pretty bad in the 4th
At the end he is amazing
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@kmart Lmao 5/6 of those were losses and in 3 of them they played the Knicks, Rockets, and Cavs
If Alec Burks and Kemba was guarding me i might be able to twerk a triple double too
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As bad as the spurs are I'd hope their star player would carry like that
We seen what Demar did
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@rodsquad yeah half the team had covid too, you called him a star. Thanks for making my point gangland. And he been doing this the whole year
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@kmart when the rest of the team is as terrible as the Spurs are calling him the star player isn't a compliment
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@rodsquad lol ok
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This year Ja been better than Luka, Luka been pretty dog shit this year. However, years prior this would been no debate.
It feels like people jumping ships over very quickly.
And Ja haven't done shit in playoffs yet, so it's one of those cases when people ridding that new hot train.
Ja deffo deserves all the praise, but it feels like dudes gonna forget you in no time if you ain't that good even if it's less than half season of bad play (for Luka's standarts)
And don't get me wrong the hype for Luka was wild. Dudes had him as best nba player and some shit I bet same people don't even have him top 10 anymore lol.
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@pedronqneves i aint even tryna hear that KP was an all star shit. KP had young player hype on a barely respectable Knicks team that year before his injury and he was still inefficient that time too. I love KP but he's a 3rd option on a championship squad. This year he been alot better actually gettin in the post and cutting but he was just a spot up shooter last year and before.
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@johnnyhimrod saying he worse than JJJ cough cough Rat was WILD tho i almost had a stroke
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@rodsquad lmao JJJ before this year always been injured and still barely grab rebounds.
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JJJ the new age Andrew Bynum
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JJJ more like III
Inconsistent
Inactive
Inefficient